2 Year old tensing up legs. Does anyone's child do this too?

I'm an OT and mother of twin 2 year old girls who have demonstrated developmental delays. They are getting early intervention, pretty much everything offered! They are going to also see a developmental pediatrician in August. We believe at least one of my girls has SPD. Some are talking Autism but I don't always see that. She has problems with eye contact, speech, playing with other children, is awkward in movements but will engage socially with older kids and me. She used to do a lot of rocking, head banging but since February, she had started laying on her stomach and tensing up her legs. It has evolved to where she kicks one leg up and brings it across the other leg. She does this quite often all throughout the day and sometimes for several minutes at a time. She gets herself all hot and sweaty from it also.


We've tried weighted/compression vests, trampolines, etc. but nothing seems to fill the void. None of her therapists have seen this before. I am wondering if anyone else has a child who does this? I was looking into tics and Stereotypic Movement Disorder but nothing mentions leg tensing as a symptom. Was also thing about OCD as well. it's really interfering with her learning/doing anything. Now she also likes to hold two objects and stare at them when she does it.

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Nov 21, 2016
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To Sarah
by: Anonymous

I actually have looked into it a bit, and from what I gathered, starting at around 2 years old is normal, but it's usually outgrown in a few years. By the time they turn 9 or 10 at the latest. So in your case, it's a bit different since you've been doing it for like 2 decades! Not saying there's something wrong with you though. But just for reference, could you go into detail about this activity, if you don't mind? Like, what kind of strange positions do you get into when you do it like you claim you get into? Do you involve your hands in any way, or is it just squeezing your legs somehow? Do you do it while sitting, while laying face up, or while laying face down? How often do you engage in this activity? Do you still use some objects to engage in this activity with, and if so, which ones and how? Lol, sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions. It's just that your case is different since most outgrow that activity. Again, not saying there's something wrong with you though.

Also, from what I gathered, those who have some sort of mental disability such as autism, OCD, etc, are more prone to engage in such behavior, though not always exclusively only them. Some, on the other hand, do it as a soothing mechanism of sorts, or to relieve intense feelings such as excitement, stress or disappointment, which can also be seen as a soothing mechanism. And in other cases, some do it solely as a way to reach "self gratification," in which case, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the person and they only do it simply because it feels good, regardless of age. Maybe that could be why you keep doing it? Regardless of why though, do you do it to the point of "climax?" The sensation of it alone could be enough to get someone hooked into this activity for many years as a form of addiction. In which case, it's totally fine as long as it's not done excessively, like everyday. Once or twice a week would seem more reasonable.

Hope I helped out, even if it was just a bit. Hope to hear back from you!

Nov 18, 2016
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I do this too!
by: Sarah

I started this at the age of 2 years old and I'm now 23 and I still do it!

I've never been to see anybody about it because I've never really known what I'm doing.
It's just an urge in the legs, you can feel when you want to do it.

I get into very strange and awkward positions and once when I was younger I hung off a swing and half way falling off a bed.

I also stare at objects and get really aggressive about it and get annoyed if anybody interrupts me, also get really hot and sweaty.

I also suffer with learning difficulties, wasn't aware it could be involved?

I'm really happy that I've seen somebody else does this!

Have you gotten anywhere with this? does anybody know what it is and what's going on? I'd love to know anything you've found out about this as it really bothers me!

Hope to hear from you.

Nov 17, 2016
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To anonymous from Oct 19 2016 with title "Stiffing"
by: Anonymous

You say she sometimes hits the floor rapidly with her hand while she's doing her exercise thing. Does she usually do that when she's close to finishing? Just wondering.

Nov 14, 2016
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HELPFUL TIPS?
by: Anonymous

Has anyone found any ways to help lesson the frequency that these episodes occur? Distraction works sometimes (i.e. lets go outside) but when it comes to an activity that requires sitting and working (school work) it is extremely distracting and impossible to accomplish anything. Has anyone found anything that works?

Nov 06, 2016
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Tensing
by: Anonymous

Hello everyone, I am a mother of three. My youngest daughter is 19 months just started tensing up her legs. Sometimes she will hold on to me really tight while doing it. The first time I saw her do it ,I almost cried because I used to do the same when I was a kid and I still do it. Believe it or not it was sexual, even though I didn't really understand or know what I was doing, I used to feel really good doing it. As I grew older I would even orgasim just doing it. Am not sure if it's genetic or just a coincidence that my daughter is doing it too but am honestly not happy about it. I now have to talk to my husband and explain it. I also want to do more research about it cause where I grew up nothing was done except my mum used to beat me up when ever she caught me doing it. Guess she knew it was sexual too.

Nov 02, 2016
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Movement disorder
by: Kris

My 6 year old was diagnosed at the age of 2 with a movement disorder. Symptoms started at 6 months of age. Although a little different since she turned 2 but since she has been old enough to set on a coffee table or child chair she will either grab the table with both hands or put both arms behind the back if the chair and hold onto the seat , stick her legs out and shake back and forth.

Aggervated cause I am a single father and know nothing about it really. Its about time to see the neurologist again but he never gives me much info. If any one can relate please get ahold of me at 740-442-4412 just txt or leave voicemail with contact information. I put my number out their because I dont know if I could find this sight again. Please any info will help. I would love for this to stop for her

Oct 27, 2016
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Twin 12 year old daughters
by: Anonymous

I have identical twin daughters. When my oldest was very young, 6 or 7 months old she would lay on her back raise her legs in the air, tighten and twist them and even scratch at her thighs. We were very puzzled by her behavior and her doctor had her tested for seizures and epilepsy with an EEG.

In the end it was determined to be some sort of calming/self stimulation mechanism. Our other daughter did not engage in it until around 2 years old when the older one suggested she should do it too! Then they both tensed their legs up like twisted pretzels usually while lying on the floor, relaxing.

They both developed very strong leg muscles from these "leg exercises." We tried to tell them it was ok to do it at home but other kids at school might not understand. Over the years it has certainly diminished but teachers mentioned it to me periodically. Now the eldest still engages in it even at school. Her younger sister sent me a text this morning about it and that she is embarrassed by it and other people are starting to notice.

I know it is calming for her but I also don't want other kids to make fun of her. Middle school is tough enough. Should she see a therapist?

Oct 19, 2016
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Stiffing
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 2 and a half and she does this to I have gone through alot of the other comments and it has actually eased my mind a little just to know there is other cases.My daughter lays on her back and at first(about 6 months old)she would stiff up her legs now she stiffs her entire body and her face looks almost as if she's grinding her teeth. Sometimes she hits the ground with her right hand rapidly she always bends her right knee and then straightens back out and repeats the entire time.

Now that she is a little older and able to explain some what I try to ask her about it and she just says I need to stiffin BTW that is a word that we made up and that's what we've always called it.I was prescribed methadone while pregnant so I've always been quick to blame it on that.

But now that I've read about so many other cases I am having second thoughts.Oh and she does it mostly when she's sleepy and doesn't quit until she has fallen asleep. She also gets really sweaty. I think Im going to show the doctor these comments and see what his thoughts are.

Sep 23, 2016
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to the "i used to do it" post from aug 24 2016
by: Anonymous

want a tip? i herd of several girls having the problem you're describing after sex and there is a solution.

Sep 20, 2016
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to anonymous from august 21 2016
by: Anonymous

Just out of curiosity, how old is your son? Also, while he's planking, as you call it, does he slide up and down, move side to side, thrust back and forth, or do any sort of movement? And does he use his hands? Just wondering because this is one of the few times I've heard of a boy doing such a thing.

Sep 19, 2016
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strange stretching supposedly cms
by: AnonymousJac

My child does this it's called complex motor stereotypies.

Sep 19, 2016
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To Rea below
by: Anonymous

Just out of curiosity, have you mentioned it to the doctor yet? Because I'm very curious about this behavior and why they feel the need to do it. It's baffling to me. Hope you respond.

Sep 10, 2016
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Tucking
by: Rea

I have a 4 year old daughter who has done this tensing movement since she was a few months old. We call it 'tucking' which is a name we made up. She lays on either her front or side. With crossed legs and tenses her whole body whilst holding her breath. She gets boiling, bright red and very sweaty. I usually let her do it as she is so active i assumed it was a calming mechanism for her.

She is nearly 5 now and have started to ask her to stop as she over heats. She can explain her feelings very well and has started to say she needs to finish. When ive asked her what it feels like when she had finished she has said it feels nice in her head and down below and pointed to her fairy. My daughter is very intelligent and looks/acts like a 6 year old.

Im not overly worried but obvs worried enough to read up on it. Im glad there are comments from people who do this motion as its comforting to they don't see an issue with it. She had started to do it most nights now but i may mention it next time we are in the docs just so there is a record of it.

Sep 07, 2016
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Sensory
by: Jenn

My daughter is 5 with sever autism and the best way of dealing with her stimming , that's what you call all what you said is cuddling or autism app for learning or fun . It works great for mine .she also has seizures and is on the best Meds for it , she has not shown any signs in 4 years .

Aug 24, 2016
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I used to do it
by: Anonymous

When I was a child I used to do it.. Though not sure why.. My mom used to scold me and tried many a times to stop me .. I am 30 years old now .. After my first sex I found crossing my legs and tightening it does work of masturbation too .. I never understood if any other girl use the same technique as well . If after sex I am not satisfied I still do the same to calm down my nerves and it stops craving for sex ..

Aug 21, 2016
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The plank
by: Anonymous

My little boy does something similar. The best way to explain it is that he's doing the plank. He can do it for a long time...up to 60 mins. He gets really hot & sweaty. I think he does it more when he's tired. He doesn't like to be moved.
He dies it quite often ie almost daily.
He is Autistic and will have an excellent 6 pack when he gets older

Aug 13, 2016
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seizure-like but is able to respond to us
by: Anonymous

I have a 20m that has these episodes throughout the day. He'd lay on his side and start rocking while both of his legs and arms have stiffened. I've tried redirecting, distraction, and forcing him to walk. On some occasions, he'd walk but we can see that his legs are still tensed.

On other occasions, he'd cry and if we try to pick him up, his legs are still stiff. Some occasions, he's able to laugh and respond to us making funny noises but he still won't stop. It's so scary watching him do this.

We've ruled out many ASD symptoms. He makes eye contact and he hit most of the major milestones, on time, except for walking. He started late and began on tippie-toes. He still does, once in a while. He is a hyper kid. Known triggers: overly excited, before nap-time, when he's cold, and before bowel movements.

I've researched this topic for months & I've narrowed it down to: ADHD with some mild form of seizures when he's overly stimulated. the body's natural response with attempting to stabilize after an overload of synapses, over-stimulation. Some form of Epilepsy. I've taken footage of it and will be visiting our dr. Update coming soon.

Jul 21, 2016
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I've done this..
by: Anonymous

As most of you are clueless what what this is, it could be anything. But in my position, when I was younger I used to do this. I'd do it in anything that's like a seat. I'd hold my breath, hold onto the seat, cross and tighten my legs, and move up and down. I did this in school and they provided me with a stress ball. That kind of helped but then I lost it. When my mom asked me why I did it I told her it felt like butterflies were in my tummy. She was confused but she just told me not to do it. I always do it till this day. I'm 15. It's embarrassing to say but yes some kids might do it because of the same tingly sensation (if you're kid is a girl, idk about a boy) but some others might actually have something wrong. I hope this helps a bit atleast to just think a little about it. I tried my best to explain. I tried to explain my experience. But I wanted to know why if there was another reason to why I might be doing this.

Jul 15, 2016
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Highly Sensitive child
by: Aziz

My 3year old son does that since he was 6 months. I went trough all what other mom said. Then a month ago I discovered my son is a Highly sensitive child.

finding this site and book helped me a lot.

The Highly Sensitive Child: Helping Our Children Thrive When the World Overwhelms Them

so please take a look and take the test. Your child could be the same.

Jun 28, 2016
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possible solution
by: Anonymous

Our now 2 1/2 has been "tensing" since about 6 months old. We looked and read all the forums and assumed that was that and maybe she'd grow out of it. Did all the usual cross lefs, go red, sweaty, passout asleep. Started in car seat then did it in any grocery cart or pram/stroller. She'd go in spurts. Sometimes 1/2 hour sometimes all day. I got so frustrated and upset. When she could talk she said it felt good.

\Then we noticed it happened mostly around bowel movements. Last month she kept complaining her butt was itchy. Between clenched teeth she barely talks. But itchy butt was audible. Treated her for Threadworms and poof, she stopped tensing. Two weeks went by and then tensing and itchy butt. More Threadworm medicine and it cleared up.

Will see what happens in two more weeks (life cycle) Fingers crossed!!!

Jun 23, 2016
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To anonymous88
by: Anonymous

Does she lay face-down or face-up when she does it?

Jun 20, 2016
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Body and breathing
by: Anonymous88

My nearly 4 year old daughter does this...
She will lay on any surface or kneel
And she will tighten her knees together or criss cross them and tense all her muscles in her body, she then holds her breath for a few seconds, then breathes, then repeats... Continuously from 1 - 10 minutes more than 5 times a day.
Her triggers - tiredness
Worry
Noise
Anxiety
Excited
Overload of anything.
Anything will trigger it. Mainly emotions... Or how she deals (or doesn't deal) with things. I find she uses this to help calm herself down, her coping mechanism I guess. And happens anywhere and everywhere (on floors, tables, edge of furniture etc) I always make sure she responds while she does that.. I'm currently in the process of my daughter being diagnosed with ASD.

Jun 18, 2016
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Leg thing
by: Anonymous

My two year old also does this and has done since she was months old. mostly when she's tired or bored.she lays on her front to the side right arm above her head, left leg behind right leg moving it up and down she gets sweaty and flushed in the face.she goes in a daze and sometimes grunts.i try to distract her she used to do it in her buggy and high chair she calls it her leg thing.

Took her to the dr and it's a self gratification behaviour she gets nice comforting feelings from it like sucking her thumb.health visitor said to ignore it.stresses me out at times as I feel like in the house she could just lay there and do it for ages.hopefully she grows out of it.i feel like there's nothing to educate parents about this, nobody seems to know about it in my family that see her do this then my sister had a baby and now she also does it! Rubs herself on her buggy strap till she falls asleep.dr said its highly intelligent children that do this hopefully she grows out of it but to all other parents I'm with you in the embarrassing nature of it were in the leg thing club too lol xx

Jun 15, 2016
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19 mo
by: Anonymous

My 19 mo have been doing it for few months. We were told that children masturbates, it's not sexual for them however they feel relaxed by doing it. However, I am now getting concerned as she seems to beeping it all the time, day and night, whenever she is lying down, at the nursery the minder told me that she does all the time and the other children are watching her. I know I should not try stop her from doing it or say anything to make her thing is wrong, but I feel that things are getting out of control. What should I do?

Jun 12, 2016
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Comment below
by: Anonymous

Oh my gosh!!

Jun 12, 2016
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Epilepsy
by: Anonymous

This is a form of epilepsy, my niece had the exact symptoms, see your doctor

Jun 07, 2016
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To Anonymous below
by: Tiff

Yes I do. It doesn't hurt her so I no longer bother her.

Jun 06, 2016
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to tiff
by: Anonymous

so then do you think it's possible that she does it as a form of "self gratification" like other people mentioned here?

Jun 04, 2016
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to anonymous from june 1st
by: Anonymous

When you confront her about it, what does she do? Does she ignore you and keeps on doing it, does she stop, or does she leave and continues doing it in another room?

Jun 02, 2016
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Leg Lifts
by: Anonymous

I have twin almost three year old granddaughters both with autism. One of the girls lays on her back while lifting both legs straight out off the floor sometimes for hours without putting her legs down. She also sweats. All of her therapists have seen this and believe that it's a stress mechanism.

Jun 01, 2016
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Masturbation
by: Anonymous

I just found this thread. My 2 year old does this. I am almost certain it is a form of masturbation. She moans and grunts and gets sweaty. I tell her she needs to do that in private or sit on her butt and stop. She has been doing it since 12 months old. No seizures. No autism or anything else. No developmental delays.

May 30, 2016
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Ice pack
by: Leslie

Hi. My 6 year old had this problem tonight. She began squeezing her glutes and crying that she couldn't stop, much like her other spd related ticks, but much more scary as her little body was involuntarily arching and squeezing. She had a cold pack in her bed from twisting her ankle a bit before this and she thought it might stop the tic if she put the cold on her glutes. I was so relieved that it worked within minutes and she fell asleep. Maybe a cold ice pack will help? My child is taking sertraline for her tics and anxiety and has been doing great, but this came out of nowhere. She always has a hard time falling asleep though. Hoping you have found an answer!

May 23, 2016
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Response
by: Tiff

Yes, everytime. I no longer interfere when she does it. She's holding her breath, hence the agony on her face

May 23, 2016
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to tiff
by: Anonymous

she does it every time before going to sleep? isn't that a bit excessive? was just wondering if she really does like it because the look on her face while she was doing it made it look like she was in agony. does she still hate it when you interfere?

May 22, 2016
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by: Tiff

No,she does it when I make her take a nap or when it's time to go to sleep. I made her take a nap so I knew it was coming so I recorded her. She does it less than 10 minutes and then she goes right to sleep. If I tell her to do it,she does and then laughs so I know it doesn't hurt her.

May 22, 2016
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to tiff
by: Anonymous

did you tell her to do it, or did you just happen to capture the moment on camera? also, how do you know she likes it? did you ask, or do you just assume somehow?

May 17, 2016
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'tight leg tink'
by: Anonymous

That's now how I do it. I lie on my back and put my legs up slightly crossed

May 16, 2016
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The Link
by: Tiff

https://plus.google.com/collection/g0RLTB

May 16, 2016
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Tensing and common traits
by: Wendy

To Anonymous: my grandson of 3 tenses from his waist up with extreme tensing of his jaw and arms He does this when he is excited or very happy Does it a lot. But your comment about behaviors children have in common: he is very bright also, knows his numbers and letters, and is very musical as well. Memorizes numbers and songs. Interesting!

May 12, 2016
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to tiff and the girl below tiff
by: Anonymous

would you mind posting the link, tiff? sorry, but i can't seem to find it even after googling it.


May 12, 2016
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Tight leg Tink
by: Tiff

Google "Tight leg tink" I just posted a video of my 2 year old doing this on google+

May 12, 2016
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by: Anonymous

I cross my legs slightly at the knees I do it wearing anything on my feet or being barefoot

May 12, 2016
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by: Anonymous

just out of curiosity, but how do you cross your legs? at the knees or ankles or something? also, do you usually do it while wearing shoes, socks, or while being barefooted?

May 09, 2016
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by: Anonymous

I can't control my urges

May 08, 2016
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To 'scissor snip' girl
by: Anonymous

Other reasons that you could be doing it is because maybe it helps you relax? Or maybe because it helps you release some stress. Maybe it even helps you sleep? There could be a few other reasons, or maybe it's purely for the satisfaction. Are you addicted to doing it, or can you control your urges?

May 04, 2016
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Is It an after effect?
by: Anonymous

I am currently 14 years old (female). I have been doing this al long as I can remember. I cross my legs and tighten my muscles. I also hold my breath. It gives me so much satisfaction when I do this. My mom always worried about me doing this because I did at school. I stopped doing it in 6th grade, but began doing it again in 7th. I don't do it at school anymore. When I was born, I had meconium aspiration syndrome. I recently did lots of research on this. There seems to be no after effects if it is treated right. Did anyone who does this tensing up thing have meconium aspiration?

Apr 22, 2016
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Refluxes
by: Aarti

Hi everyone,
Actually my daughter exactly has the same problem. when she was 7 months old she used to do folds her legs towards her tummy and she is continuous to do it until she sleeps. Now she is 4.5 years old and from last week she is having fever and now she started it again. We noticed whenever she is not well or getting bored she does it more and she gets sweats and red cheeks. we have tried many doctors but they always advised us that it is like a tantrum and there is nothing to worry about because when we try to distract as we say her we are going to mall she quickly get up and get ready. her mood changes within a second.
If she is happy and surrounded with activities she never does it but whenever she is sick she does it.
Please if anyone can help me what exactly it is?
If anyone facing the same problem, please share your views.
Thank you all.

Apr 12, 2016
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3 yr old
by: Anonymous

My 3 yr old asd daughter does this same exact thing when she's sleepy, she does it mostly at night or sometimes before napping, now I don't feel so alone after reading all the comments here I just wish I can help here in a different way.

Apr 08, 2016
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Common Things
by: Anonymous

-Started early at 6 months
-Only does it when I make her take a nap or when it's time to go to sleep
-Only time she doesn't do it is when she falls asleep on her own
-She is very smart and never crawled she went straight to walking.



MY son is three year old and he does this since he was 5 months. He does it for an hour before he goes to sleep and when I want him to take a nap he does it too. The only way he can sleep without does this is when he sleeps in his carseat. I notice also he does this when he feels uncomfortable like when someone plays with his toys. It is been almost 3 years now and I really feel sad every night as he does it every night. I understand it is self pleasure but even though the way he breaths / sweats/ tenses up leg makes him looks like he is in pain.

I have a Q here to all Mom who their kid does that.
Is there any common things the kids share.
My son is very smart (he knows letters and numbers and count to ten since he was 24 months.
He is very cautious and he memorizes songs quickly.

Apr 08, 2016
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to the person who said below
by: Anonymous

I know I answered it lol but is there any other reason?
I lie on my back with my arms underneath and swing my legs back and for in the air I think I've done it since I was 1/2/3 can't remember

Apr 08, 2016
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to the person who said below
by: Anonymous

I lie on my back with my arms up and I've done it for as long as I can remember 2/3ish I think

Apr 06, 2016
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My son 3 year old does this too
by: Anonymous

MY son is three year old and he does this since he was 5 months. He does it for an hour before he goes to sleep and when I want him to take a nap he does it too. The only way he can sleep without does this is when he sleeps in his carseat. I notice also he does this when he feels uncomfortable like when someone plays with his toys. It is been almost 3 years now and I really feel sad every night as he does it every night. I understand it is self pleasure but even though the way he breaths / sweats/ tenses up leg makes him looks like he is in pain.

I have a Q here to all Mom who their kid does that.
Is there any common things the kids share.
My son is very smart (he knows letters and numbers and count to ten since he was 24 months.
He is very cautious and he memorizes songs quickly.

Mar 30, 2016
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by: Anonymous

You just answered your own question. Lol. You do it because it feels good. Plain and simple. It's normal and not strange. But for how long have you been doing it for? And do you do that position on your back or on your stomach? Sorry, but I'm having a little trouble understanding your method.

Mar 28, 2016
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I'm glad I'm not the only one!! 'Scissor Snip'
by: Anonymous

I am 12 years old(female) and I have been doing this for as long as I can remember my family thought I was so strange!!i never knew why but it felt so good when I did it, I would really tense and would go purple and hold my breath and sweat, I would but my hands behind me above my lower back and put both my legs up in the air, right in front of left and swing back and forth, I never had an explanation for why I did it except it feels good which it still does! I still do it and would like to know why!!
Anyone have any ideas?

Mar 18, 2016
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Someone who's been there
by: Anonymous

I've done something similiar as long as I can remember. I'm a 28 year old female and when I was a small child, I'd lay on my stomach, put my hand in a fist below my belly botton and move my legs back and forth sometimes burning holes into the top of my feet from carpet burn. I only came to the realization in my late teens that it was a form of sexual gratification. I'd be punished for it as a child and was very self conscious about it and still am to this day. It's very natural and PLEASE don't punish a child for something they can't comprehend. All they know is that it feels good and can help them go to sleep. If anything, just explain that it's something that should be done in privacy and leave it at that.

Mar 10, 2016
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To post below
by: Anonymous

If you really want to upload the video, just post it on YouTube. It won't get banned, and you can always remove it later if you want. Of course though, it's your decision.

Mar 10, 2016
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Tightens legs, holds breath, sweats
by: tiff

It's me again(scroll down to see my first post) my daughter is now 2 1/2 and she still does this and only at night when it's time to go to sleep. I wish there was a way to upload a video so that you can see. It doesn't hurt her, she actually goes right to sleep afterwards. I've also noticed she only does it with me.If she spends the night with my sister she goes right to sleep with no problems. Again, if i tell her "Do the tight leg" she laughs and then lays down and does it. It irks me but she likes it so I don't bother her. hope this helps.

Mar 10, 2016
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To anonymous from Feb 6 2015
by: Anonymous

Does she still use that technique? Because I think I'm familiar with it. Reply if you see this.

Mar 10, 2016
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My daughter does this too
by: Anonymous

My 4yr old daughter does the same thing, but only at night and it's either when She's on her back or standing. Her feet curve a werid way too and it worries me so bad she says she can't help it. But idk, if she's kidding with me

Mar 07, 2016
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help please
by: Anonymous

My 6 year old daughter been doing that since she was in my stomach she doing it now as im typing pleassssssse helppppppp

Mar 04, 2016
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my daughter does it too!!!
by: Anonymous

My now 4 yr old tein daughter has done this exact thing for over 2 years. Now that she is older she tells me it just feels good...sometimes its her legs that feel good, sometimes her stomach, and tonight she said it made het whole back feel good. I use to worry so much about this but not so much any more. She is also pigeon toed...thought this might have something to do with but i don't know.

Feb 28, 2016
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13 month old
by: Lucy

Hey my son gets these episodes where he starts off puckering his lips then his toes curl and from there on its a full on episode. Heart rate jumps to the 200's and O2 in the 80's. Then he sweats up a storm as if he just came out of a pool. Then he holds his breath until he turns purple, most the time we bag him but lately I let him get out of it with out bagging him. Doctors say it's his disease gauchers, but I dint believe that's what it is. It looks like he's in some type of pain. We give him Ativan for it. He also had 3 edged so its not seizes.

Feb 22, 2016
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by: Anonymous

Hi everyone

Dear lord I have been so worried, my 3 old daughter has started doing this in last month and I obviously panicked. Glad to hear my not alone in this.....I'm noticing this is only affecting the girls from what I can see.

Feb 12, 2016
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I did the same thing and now my daugther does it
by: Anonymous

Hi Im a father of an 8 month daugther and she started doing this a couple of months ago, when I saw her doing it I was shocked because I did it also, what I can tell you form my exprience is that as some people have signal it is a form of masturbation, when I was little I couldnt know why I did it, I only knew it felt good, my oarents used to punish me from doing it so I did it when I was alone, as I entered my teen years I finally realize that it was a sexual thing because I started ejaculating. All I can tell to you is to treat it as a normal thing try to talk to tour child and dont make them feel bad for doing it, I see it as a normal thing, so dont medicate your children or something like that, sometimes the best medicine its just to talk to them, I hope my comment helps everyone

Feb 03, 2016
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My 5 year old does this
by: Anonymous

My 5 year old autistic child does this she done this since she was one and a half I've never found anything on it this is the first time our doctors don't know why she does it her dad freaks out I make her stop and her dad tells me she's in pain and she can't help it and we get a big argument but I can make her stop and she'll stop if I keep her busy she doesn't do it when she's at school she's never done it when she goes to stay the night at my family's house she doesn't do that she only does it at home when she's not occupied playing or doing something thank you for sharing hopefully someone can find a name for it nice no my child and I are not alone on this

Jan 31, 2016
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my seven year old does this
by: Anonymous

My seven year old has done this since she was 8 months old and I hate it. It scares me because she can never tell me why she does it. She would hide on the floor and do it. Now she sits in chairs and crosses her arms on her chest and stretches her legs out until she sweats. I really need help because I'm freaking out over this no doctor can tell me why she does this please can someone give me tips on what to do to get her to stop.

Jan 29, 2016
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My niece is almost 2 and does it.
by: Irene

Thanks guys so much for this information. My niece us almost 2 and has been doing this since 3 months old. She got the whole family running scared. We thought it was a seizure but the syptoms didn't match till I read this link with all your comments. Thanks so much. My niece lives with her parents in East Africa. True to my word she would have been given medication for seizures had I not read your experiences. This may have saved her life. Thanks.

Jan 28, 2016
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My 4 year old is still doing this
by: LT

My 4 year old is still doing this.... she has done it since she was approx 6 months old. When she was around 2yo she would do it all throughout the day, wherever we were and get really angry if I tried to stop her. She is now 4 and after not doing it for maybe a year she is at it again!

She has had a few digestive issues and has been on and off Movicol for years as she is prone to constipation despite having an excellent diet and plenty of fluids.
I have always thought the two were related as she would definitely do it more as she became constipated. I still think it is related but now she is older and I've had years to observe this I can see it is not the only reason she does it. Although I have no answers as to why.

Now she is older I have asked her why she does it and she says that she doesnt know why and she just likes it! She also said it feels good in her legs.


Jan 27, 2016
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I used to do this.
by: Anonymous

Hi, I used to do this when I was younger, I am 14 currently (female).My family all knew and gave it a nickname, I have never been successful researching this until now and it sure is a relief to see that other people actually do this and I'm not some sort of alien. Around 2 years ago I started doing it again, I don't know why but being older I understand it more and I hope this will benefit anyone with young children so they know what their child is doing and how their child is feeling.

I would tense up all my muscles, holding my breath which would make be very hot, which resulted in a red face and sweating. It was pleasurable I suppose but I don't know if a young child would see it that way,i'm not a doctor.When I did this however for as long as I can remember, it would cause me pain when passing a stool to the extent at which I would cry, especially when I was younger, which doesn't happen now that I have stopped or stages when I had stopped.

I have been reading this forum and many people are saying that their child wll do it all day, I was the same, it was almost addictive, when I was very young I can remember id even do it at school which is so embarrassing looking back.

When I 'did it' I would crane over a table on a chair or lie on my side to do it, and tense my muscles and release, this seems to be similar for everyone else.

SOME ADVICE. The reason I made myself stop last year was because I was getting in the way of my school life. If I had homework, id much rather lie on my bed on my phone doing it than do work or be productive. I would advise that you let your child do it when they are young but try to easy them out of it when they get older like me as it got in the way of my school life, also I would never do it if I was active or on a day out, so bear that in mind, keep your child up and doing something.

Thankyou all so much for posting your stories on here as it is a massive relief for me, I hope my experience helps you and if anyone has some sort of diagnosis, please let me know as it would be very interesting, thankyou!

Dec 21, 2015
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Sleepy Leg
by: Anonymous

I am 18, and it was a big family joke that I would do this, and it's how my Mom knew that I was tired, because I would only do it when I was tired. She swears she could feel me doing it when I was still in the womb, and my foot would jab her in the side! I cross my right leg of my left in the air and my toes curl up. sometimes it does make me sweat and it is the craziest thing ever. Kinda glad to know I am not the only one who does this!

Dec 14, 2015
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Tightens legs, holds breath, sweats
by: Tiff

My daughter is now 27 months she started what we call "tight leg" when she was 6 months. She only does it when it's time to go to sleep. Jokingly when we ask her to do the "tight leg" she lays down and does it. With that being said it's nothing dangerous it doesn't hurt and she likes doing it, it actually puts her to sleep but I can't stand it. When she was younger I used to massage her thighs she would then loosen up. That no longer works she will cry if I interrupt. It is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Nov 16, 2015
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Dose anyone know what this is
by: Anonymous

My daughter(1) also dose this and has been since she was about 4mo. She dose it's off and on it seem now and she will go a while with out doing and then out if no where start doing it again, she gets all hot and sweaty when she dose it and usually likes to hold something she seems to get angry when she does it sometime. She walks fine and is very smart so it doesn't seem like it has hindered her from growing but still Concers me

Nov 14, 2015
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Help!
by: Anonymous

I do this same thing and I'm 12 any tips to stop it! It's so embarrassing but I can't help it?!?!

Oct 22, 2015
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Normal
by: Anonymous

I have a daughter that also does this and I feel its normal its her way of relaxing when she is tired .


Oct 21, 2015
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Must me hereditary
by: Anonymous

I done this as a child,now my 2yr old is doing it!

Sep 20, 2015
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Mommy worried
by: Anonymous

My child is 8 months old . She cross her legs at her ankles and tension them up while holding her breath for a sec . She also will tens her chest for a moment all at the same time while her legs are crossed at the ankles. Why does this happen ? I asked the doc . Because when she was 3 months she used to do it with her fists. But not her legs . She just started doing this leg And chest thing. Is there something wrong with her ? She has also been very advance she said daddy at 5 months doggie at 6 and she been walking against furniture since she was 5 to 6 months . She also just got her 2 bottom teeth in and I think her top tooth might be coming in. Could teething be the problem?

Sep 11, 2015
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Self pleasure
by: Anonymous

Oh goodness i relate to the comment before me - this was self pleasure. I am a female. Apparently i was doing this from the age of 4 i didnt realise or remember until i was 7. This became an addiction. To the extent that i carried on doing this as use to have powerful orgasms which i didnt realize until much later. Im now 38 and have stopped this as it was putting a lot of pressure around my hips making me achy.

I only happened to go a google search today to find out what this meant and was overwhelmed to hear someone else mention similar.

Im not sure if others would grow out of it. Took me a long time.

Sep 10, 2015
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Im 26 and i used to it as a child.
by: Anonymous

I don't remember when was it that I started doing this but I do remember my dad asking me why I did it....I now have a 17 month old baby and she does something similar, my husband is concerned about it but let me tell you why I did it and why I think she does it. SELF PLEASURE, it sounds dumb but it feels good, how good you may ask? Really good. To the point of an orgasm good. I don't worry about it because I know it's not bad, there's nothing wrong with her. I will try to redirect it I just have to find a way. I hope my comment helps at least 1 of you understand why your child does this.

Sep 05, 2015
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My daughter does this. She's turning 2
by: Anonymous

Hello parents. I haven't received the complete facts yet. We will determine next week when we take our little girl back to the doctors. Anyways. Our 2 year old really does this when we put her in her car seat. Or if she's really bored on her one chair at home. Everytime in the car seat. Holds her breath , stiff legs.
Our doctor ask us to video it which we did. She is saying she is doing a self stimulation at her age. However they are going to look into this further. She told us this is something we don't need to worry about that she is completely healthy. I know us parents look at that and we wonder what is wrong. I don't like seeing that so we try to always keep her busy. Once we keep her busy she doesn't do it. Thanks

Aug 25, 2015
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My girl just turned 2 also do the same
by: Anonymous

Hi to all Moms,

Thank you Alicia E for you have given me relief on your post. Because I'm worried why my girl tensing and crossing her legs. But actually after doing that she fall asleep very easily.


Aug 19, 2015
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Daughter is 8 now
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 8 now but I was trying to have a conversation with her the other day and she gives me no eye contact and could not verbally say what's on her mind. She's awkward towards people she doesn't know and kids. So I started thinking back to something's she used to do when she was a baby she would hold her breath and rock back and forth and clench her legs. If I called her name she would snap out of it and start to cry. Anybody that approached her she would scream and cry. I'm starting to think something is wrong with my child cause of this and sometimes she still holds her breath

Aug 19, 2015
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Still Doing It
by: Alicia E.

My daughter also would hang off of the couch, the bed, and/or drop to the floor wherever she was. She's almost three and at one point I thought it was going away but it seems like it's starting up again. I'm not NEARLY as worried as I was before since the neurologist was very clear with me. She just looks imiserabke when she does it. I wish I could make it go away. I just try to distract her as much as possible...:redirect her behavior.

Aug 19, 2015
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Glad I found this
by: Anonymous

So glad I have found this site. Like I said my daughter does this. She has been doing it so much more as I have just had a baby and I think the change has unsettled her. My main concern is Chloe hardly sleeps during the night as she lays there tensing and crossing her legs so throughout the day she is tired so does it even more. I wish there was something that could be done to stop it even though I know it's normal.just hate seeing my daughter so tired and not sleeping well.

If we go out with friends rather than play she just sits there doing it.

Aug 18, 2015
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my 22 mnth old is in the same boat!!
by: Anonymous

Omg!! Im so glad to know im not the pnly one either! My daughter is 22 mnths old and she started right after she turned 1.she will drop to the floor,hang off the couch,hang off the bed, at daycare i meam anywhere and do it.she gets mad when i try to stop her and she grunts when she does it! My doctor referred me to neurology becaise he said he has never seen that in his life! The speech therapist even saod she needs to het checked out for autism and i thought maybr its ADHD or a neurological tic but i dnt see the same symptoms but my doc did say it could ne child masturbation but hes never seen it in a child so young but idk..i just feel so bad for her even though it seems like it doesnt hurt i jist want answers..but this is relieving. Thanks you guus!!

Aug 15, 2015
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My daughter does this
by: Anonymous

My daughter also does this. She used to do while laying on her back tensing and bring 1 leg over the other and tensing her hands. Now she does it standing and sometimes holds 2 objectives in her hands while doing it. She can do this all day and it's really upsetting for me. When we go to toddler groups my daughter would rather stand and tense or Lay and tense rather than mix. She is nearly 21 months and I am worried she will do this while at nursery. How has others people children been when they go to nursery?

Aug 14, 2015
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My daughter does the same thing!
by: Anonymous

I also have been to neurologist and they told me the same thing about self gratification. They say she might like it. But try to redirect her. This was such a helpful page to come across!

Aug 14, 2015
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My daughter does the same thing!
by: Anonymous

My daughter also tenses up her legs while laying on her stomach. Also while I am holding her while she falls asleep, also gets hot and sweaty bc she holds her breath. Ive been to developmental peds and everything was normal. But its not normal to me it really bothers me. They told me" maybe she just likes the way it feels"...serioisly?!

Jul 30, 2015
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referred to two neurologists.
by: Alicia E.

I have commented here before but just recently saw some comments from new mommies to the post really worried. Let me start off by saying I am NOT a doctor or in the medical field in any way. However, I thought I'd share my experience. My daughter has done this since she was about 7 months old. She's almost 3 and still does it although I'm noticing it seems to be mostly when she's tired.

She crosses or scissors her legs, gets really red cheeks, sweats a ton, and will do it wherever she is. She'll sometimes just drop to the floor right where she's walking to do it. We had referrals to two neurologists. One with a specialty in movement disorders. I showed her video and she explained just as others have here. It's self gratification. She explained its very common and to try to distract her when she does it. She said not to get upset with her and to just try to redirect her behavior. She explained its often misdiagnosed as a neurological issue. I was able to show her video which was key, she said, to a proper diagnosis.

I hope this information brings some relief to others. I was soooo worried about her just as we all are. I, too, said there is no way this is normal. A 24 hour EEG and two neurologists later, it is normal.

Jul 29, 2015
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Please help!!!
by: Joanna

Have a 2 1/2-year-old daughter and she also does her legs like that ever since she was two months old. She gets all hot and sweaty and sometimes her eyes roll all the way back. I took her to the doctor several times but they keep saying that she doesn't have anything that it's normal and she's just growing. But I don't think that is normal I've never seen that before.. If anyone knows what that is can you please let me know I'm really worried is like every day is getting worst. Please help!!

Jul 22, 2015
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My cute angel
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 2and half and has been doing this self gratifying since 8 months old its so distressing she puts her hand in between her legs and grinds them till she red in face and her hair is soaking wet from sweat she did do it 24 hours day and night now its when bored or tired some days are bad others not to bad average six times a day she has had MRI seen all doctors been told all fine it is self gratification to keep her busy and get a place with garden well I'm out 7 days a week have to do housework every night no support from council on getting place with garden it really upsets me I can,t do anything why are their no answers!!! :(

Jul 22, 2015
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my little girl does that too
by: Anonymous

She sometimes does it when shes in pain or want to poop she doesn't want the stools to come out because it will be painful

Jul 13, 2015
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4yr old still does it
by: Anonymous

Wow such a relief to know we are not the only parents experiencing this . My daughter is now 4 and I can't quite recall when it started, our paed thought it was seizures but I doubt that anymore. She usually falls off to sleep and they usually occur when she is tired so I have put it down to a soothing mechanism too I just am not too bothered by it anymore because all it does is out her to sleep.

Jun 21, 2015
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hands too?
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 14 and used to do that starting when she was around 5 months. She then started tensing her hands really stiff to her face. She stopped with the legs when she was about 6 years old but she still mashes her face. She does it all during the day. It really stresses me out that no doctor in the last 14 years have been able to diagnose her with anything or help her in any way.

Jun 14, 2015
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Other symptons
by: Aghila

Hi

So pleased to hear that you have some answers now.
My daughter who is now 25 months has all the other symptoms you mentioned like lack of eye contact including lack of speech. Does your daughter talk? I am so worried that she has ASD.

May 10, 2015
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I have always done this
by: Anonymous

Hello,
I am being anonymous because to me this is a very private thing that i do. I have done it since i can remember. I want to share this with you because i want you to know that there is nothing wrong with your child doing it. My 8 month old daughter does it and i started researching about it to see if doctors know why. Anyways like i said i still do it. Why i do it is because i get a very restless feeling in my legs but is more in the inner thigh area. It is very uncomfortable. the only way that relieves the tense feeling is to tense both of my legs until the tense feeling goess away. when the feelings goes away its kind of a pleasurable feeling and releases all the tension i had in my legs. i am 29 a still do it to this day but not as often. I hope this helps your worries.

Apr 29, 2015
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Follow up
by: Anonymous

After our referral to a pediatric neurologist with a specialty in movement disorders AND a 24 hour EEG, we have our answers. The second neurologist said that this is self stimulitory behavior. We showed her video of it and she said that she was confident that is what it is. She said the sweating and red cheeks is common during the scissoring of the legs and that it's very common. I finally got the nerve to google it, and everything that I was reading described my daughter perfectly. The articles I found sounded as if they were talking about my daughter. They also say that they're often misdiagnosed as neurological issues and that video is key to the diagnosis.

I felt so helpless when I was trying to figure out what was going on. I hope this helps and brings some of you some relief in your search for answers. Good luck!!!

Apr 28, 2015
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by: Anonymous

Hi i have a two year old boy (3 in july). We have this problem with my boy he tenses one leg obove the other and squeezes his willy inbetween them so it rubs on his leg. My health visitor has referred him to CAMHS because no distraction or anything is working. He also gets all hot and sweaty he lies in bed for hours after being put down doing it. He is under a paediatrician for behavioural issues and they are looking at his social interaction as he doesn't get on well with other children, hes really aggressive, always lashing out and shouting, we have trouble with eye contact too.

I myself think he maybe on the autistic spectrum and think this thing he is doing could be related. He has repetitive behaviours he hums alot, bangs, head bangs at times. Hope you get your little girl sorted, its frustrating watching them doing these things (my health visitor refers to it as masturbating) as they will be getting a sensation off it. But when they are taking it to a level where they are sweating cobs because of it isnt right. I thought myself ive never heard of any child doing this before. But now ive read this it seems more children do it too.

Apr 28, 2015
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Same here!
by: Anonymous

Same at home. Our daughter is crossing legs since she was around 5 months old. Exactly what you describe: tensed, like a log when you try to lift her, etc. It was obviously preventing her to start crawling, according to the physiotherapist we were told to visit. Her kindergarten was later putting lots of pressure on us about this and pressing us to find "solutions". They haven't seen that before and were obviously feeling uncomfortable with it. We were afraid of hips problem and she received an other X-Ray. Nothing wrong. Then, we were told to see a Neurologist specialised in kids, who immediately told us about "self stimulation". She didn't want to proceed to any further examination and said it's normal, it's not something our daughter suffers from, it's just that she may need more senses' stimulations than other kids.

She also regularly balance herself to fall asleep and the neurologist said it goes often with it. I've also heard from a teacher that some kids don't have a cuddle blanket but a gesture which make them feel better and pacifying them. I start to accept it but it kills me when I see other kids from her kindergarten making fun of her. She sometimes stop doing it, in a more friendly environment (holidays, close friends, family etc.) but starts again when in contact to the rude world of kids sometimes. I now put lots of hope in Ergotherapy that we start now. They obviously help kids to deal differently with new things or stress... I'll keep you posted. It's good to hear that we are not the only ones in this situation, thanks for sharing! Aude

Apr 06, 2015
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2 year old tightens up one leg over the other
by: Lili

Our daughter has been experiencing this since she was about 6 months. At first we thought it was constipation, then thought it was gas buildup, now we believe it may be her acid reflux. We call it cramping when she does it. She twists her legs together putting one behind the other really tight and the body language tells me that it is lower abdominal gas pressure. We have had Xrays done with everything came back fine. She doesn't appear to be in pain when she does it, but she doesn't look comfortable either. She will play sometimes while in the position and do other things. She does have minor acid reflux and has been on omeprazole which actually alleviated cramping entirely for a month, but is now returning and not sure why. She doesn't do it as often or as severely as she used to. Appreciate any tips or insight on what this might be. I still feel that it is lower gas pain sometimes that causes it.

Apr 05, 2015
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help!
by: Anonymous

Hello my daughter is going through body stiffness, always falling, balance issues, and other things. I wish there was a support group, so we could all talk and get support from one another. My daughter also had a mri, everything came back normal. It's very had to see my daughter fall and hit her hand or get hurt a bunch of times a day. Please email me, maybe we can set up a support chat. My email is coolnommy88@yahoo.com

Apr 04, 2015
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my 2 and half years old does it the same thing.
by: Anonymous

I'm so relieved when i read it the same story as my daughter going through. I noticed this issue when she was 18 months.she tenses her both legs slightly crossing her left over right and moving it up and down. She looked kind of falling sleep closing both her eyes. Her face full of sweat. I decided to take her to her paditrcian.i mentioned every thing what she does and he said, she's maybe constipated if she does it again bring her back. It wasn't seem to me about constipation... she keeps doing the same way and it took her back to Pd. He referred me to Scatish Hospital dallas. They said de ' fine bring her back when she tunes 3 years.now She's 2& half and does it ones in a while. Hope one day our questions will be answered.
Good luck!

Mar 26, 2015
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child duz the same thing
by: ellie

How can I upload a video?

Mar 05, 2015
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Update
by: Anonymous

Hi There,
I finally got a referral to a pediatric neurologist. We did a 24 hour EEG. During the EEG, my 2 year old had one of her "episodes". The EEG came back completely normal!! The neurologist did make one more referral to, what I think she referred to as, a movement specialist? She thinks, however, this is completely and 100% voluntary on my daughter's part. She said it's what they refer to as self stimulatory behavior. She said it's sometimes done to help calm anxiety in children that they often start growing out of. She said some kids rock back and forth. Some kids bang their heads. Some kids do this. She said she's confident it is not neurological. I was so relieved!!

My daughter still does it. It's only been a couple of weeks since she had her EEG, but she's thriving just as much as ever before. Although it looks very strange when she does it, I feel like a huge weight has been lifted! Good luck to everybody else!

Mar 05, 2015
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my 19 month old son is doing the exactly the same thing
by: Anonymous

Hi i dont know if this is a recent post but i thought id try my luck . My son is 19 months and he is doing the exact same thing as your daughter like literally you took the words out of my mouth , he lays on his belly crosses his ankles and tenses up and moves his left leg up and down rubbing it on his right leg he gets very sweaty while doing this and also pants and sometimes looks like he is going to fall asleep but not always it started about a month ago and i have been worried sick trying to get answers one dr said its a cramp but i dont think so because his not in any pain another dr said it looks like benigne seizure but couldnt 100% say thats what it is i am booked in to see a pediatrician but its taking a while . I was wondering if you ever found out what your daughter had or why she is doing it .

Feb 06, 2015
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my daughter does it too
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 3. She has been doing this since she was about 5 months? She would then lay on the floor or in her crib, hold her hands tight on her chest, lock ankles, slightly tighten up her legs and move them. Now at 3yrs old, she will hang off the back of the livingroom chair, with her arms across the back of the chair hand on hand, ankles crosses, legs moving up and down with her body stiff. She will be playing, watching tv, eating...doing anything really, then say " i need to grunt" and off she goes to the back of the chair. Sometimes she "pants" and works up a slight sweat. I feel it relaxes her? She does it 6-7 times a day.

Jan 12, 2015
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oh boy not the only one
by: Anonymous

ok iv done this my hole life as far as I can remember when I was younger I use to do this around my family kinda weird in school where ever as I got older I keep a secret from my boy friend of 8 years. I still do this to this day its crazy I been trying to have a baby hoping this isn't why I cant.

Dec 18, 2014
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tensing body
by: Anonymous

My son does this too. He lays on ground tensing his legs and crossing them. He also holds his hands and crys . when I try to lift him his whole body is tense. He would get up for like 2secs and straight back down doing it again. I had him at doctors and she said she wouldn't be worried about it. But I'm starting to worry because he's doing it everyday and Cry's when doing it. Help please

Dec 18, 2014
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My Daughter does this too
by: Anonymous

My daughter started doing this several months ago. She turned 2 last month. She doesn't seem to be in any pain, crosses her legs and stiffens her entire body. She sweats a ton when she does this at times. When I try to pick her up during it, it's like picking up a tree. She doesn't really respond to me and has a blank stare. My daughter has had two catheters placed as an infant for UTIs. My husband is worried she is in some sort of pain or they did something wrong when putting it in. She just looks so helpless and I hate seeing her like that.

At times, she will be crossing her legs and have her body stiff, she will stand up for just a second, and then drop to the floor wherever she is. I suppose it can be self gratification, but she just seems uncomfortable and not herself during the days she has these episodes. Any information here is appreciated.

Nov 18, 2014
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Stress?
by: Anonymous

The tensing started with our boy a few months ago and I realised it was around the last time I checked his penis thoroughly. I tried tonight but the foreskin would not go back which has got me worried. My wife assured me many times lately that she cleans him every night, but when I asked her tonight about the foreskin she said she didn't check that thoroughly. So while I deter doctors and their 'antibiotic' approach to everything, going to them with something specific might get you better answers. After all, you should know your child better than anyone else. So thats the first thing I will get checked and eliminate. I dont think its him trying to do a poo or wee because the tensing happens at all times of the day, and always when he's lying down, I dont notice it when he's up and about. I havent read much about GD and I will, but what my boy does is discomfort and possibly painful, not gratifying. As for stress, it very well could be, and no doctor or phsyciatrist will be able to accurately diagnose that. Only you will know what your baby sees and experiences on a daily basis in terms of emotions, and making things more relaxing for them is a good start. I know our bub doesnt have the most 'relaxed' household, or parents for that matter.

Nov 13, 2014
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What about boys
by: Anonymous

My son has done this twice but was sitting and had his toes pointing. It almost looked like he was trying to poop. I could distract him and he could stand but would go back to that sitting position. I have no clue what it is.

Oct 26, 2014
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I did this as a child now I'm 23
by: Anonymous

I did this when I was a child (I'm female). Apparently when I done it I stared at things and held my breath as well. My parents didn't have a clue what was going on. I had an EGG and I have epilepsy so it took 23 years for me to find out what was wrong. But some children still do this self gratification with epilepsy too. I only found out that other children done this not so long ago. I was embarrassed my whole life hearing the stories. And for those who think it hurts it really doesn't, it only hurts the muscles in the legs if it's been done for a long time.

Oct 17, 2014
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RE: 2 year old tensing up legs.
by: Anonymous

If you state she has problems with eye contact, social play, and is delayed in language and therapist are going towards autism diagnosis; I would look into ABA therapy. This is researched based intervention for behaviors, language delays, and social interaction. Weighted vests (sensory integration) should not be the intervention for these behaviors.

Sep 19, 2014
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hormones in milk......?
by: Anonymous

What if extra hormones that are added into milk or food are making the children want to " endorphine, self sooth" at an early age....?

Sep 17, 2014
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Soothing endorphine release thru self stimulation
by: Anonymous

It is not associated with sexual gratification and is a completely normal biological behavior that children naturally discover on there own. Because most toddler or infant girls tense their legs or body it can easily be misdiagnosed as a neuromuscular disorder. My two year old does it when tired and if it is not in her room i tell her that if she wants to lay on her hands she needs to do it in her room. She either stops if she doesnt want to go to her room or she goes to her room to be alone. She isnt shamed but knows it is not done around other people.

http://www.babycenter.com/0_masturbation_11558.bc

http://www.tipsforgreatkids.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/01-E1-Masturbation-FINAL.pdf

http://www.childrenshealthnetwork.org/CRS/CRS/pa_bmasturb_hhg.htm

Sep 04, 2014
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10 month old with Gratification Disorder
by: Anonymous

Hello moms out there.

My daughter would tense her whole body, grunt and sweat while she had these episodes. Sometimes her eyes would close and it usually happened when she was in an uncomfortable position like getting her diaper changed or trying to go to sleep. I noticed she did this when she was bored, sleepy or angry and it mostly happened when she was laying down but than it even started happening while she was sitting down. Her arms would extend out to the side and her face looked like she was in pain. However when we would call her she would snap out of it. She had a EEG done on her at children's hospital and thank god the neurologist said everything was fine. The EEG showed no signs seizures or brain waves. The neurologist said it is masturbation "gratification disorder" and said she would grow out of it but still it makes no sense to me. How can any of this she is doing mean any type of gratification (pleasure) to her!? What if something else might be wrong?

Sep 03, 2014
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child self-stimulation
by: Anonymous

read article below.

A Very Difficult Topic: Child Self-Stimulation...

http://www.empoweringparents.com/blog/younger-children/a-very-difficult-topic-child-self-stimulation/#

Aug 09, 2014
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Unfortunately....
by: Anonymous

My daughter is five. She's been tensing up with legs crossed and belly to the floor and as she has grown, she will do it while standing at times. These days, is mostly before sleep. I'm not sure if orgasms as adults experience is the correct assumption, but it has to be related. There are too many similarities.

Jun 23, 2014
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my child does this too....
by: Anonymous

when between 6mo and 2.5 yrs she used to only do it before naps or attempted naps as she wasn't keen on them....she's 4.5 yrs now and only does it before sleep (sometimes, rarely) or when she's really tired she may lay on the couch and do it...lays on her side or stomach and tenses her legs and crosses them, her breathing is slowed right down and she holds her breath a little, maybe 5 seconds or so then exhales and repeats...she gets hot and sweaty from it also....

We're evaluating her for SPD and so forth....given what I'm reading here it sounds like there may be a connection....we'll see I guess. good luck all.

Jun 13, 2014
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response to prev comment
by: Anonymous

what other diagnoses and behaviours do you see?
she needs neurological
assessment, is there are neurological paediatrician available ?also a paediatric occupational therapist may be able to shed some light ? X

Jun 13, 2014
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19 months sweats while she stiffened her body
by: Annia

Hi. I'm not alone thank God!!!! My 19 months old daughter start stiffing her whole body when she was 14months. I took her to the pediatrician and told him the whole episode but he decided that she looks very fine and advised me to bring her back when she does it next time. At the 18 month check up I told him that she gets very rigid and her face look s like she's in pain followed sweating... he sent me to Scottish childrens hospital in dawtown and the doctor told me she is fine. But I'm so worried, I can't sleep at night thinking about my little angle's face.

She's also arches her back and walks in wards. She falls several times when her legs are stiff and flexed at the same time.

She Will have a follow up with her pediatrician when she turns 2years old...

I'm so worried until then.

Please anyone have any advice where I can take her.

Thank you for help!

May 18, 2014
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leg pain
by: Anonymous

My two year old daughter does it only at night i rub her knees because she says that's where it hurts her pediatrician says its growing pains

Apr 09, 2014
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Stiffing of legs
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 11 years old now. She began the leg stiffening when she was a month old until she was 9 years old, my mom would call her a ballarina. I took her to see specialists, neurologist and therapist. I would become worried because she would hold her breath until she stopped and start again and hold her breath. Her face would turn so red I would panic. The more I panic, the more she would do it. The more I asked her why she would do it. I decided to massage her legs every time she would begin this stiffening and holding her breath and at bedtime. I put in swimming classes, we jumped on the trampoline a lot. Eventually she gradually stopped. However, I still massage her legs she complains her legs hurt.

She never liked walking and would complain her legs are always hurting her.

I was fearful, but, more relieved that she stopped, I thought my daughter had issues. Hopefully your child/children will too stop when they get older.

Apr 08, 2014
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My child does this too
by: Anonymous

My daughter will stiffen her legs only when she is laying on her stomach. She is 3.5 years old. She is aware she is doing it. When I ask why she does it, she get a little upset and tells me to leave the room. I just don't want her to be hurting herself.

Jan 31, 2014
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An observation
by: Anonymous

My 6 year old has done this same tensing since very early on. I have a theory, looking back to see what types of activities we engaged in for my daughter. I would like to ask how many folks that have had this experience with their kids, used a vibrating type bouncer when your child was an infant. I was at a store in a vibrating massage chair and i got the sensation of wanting to tense up. It made me think, the times when I had her in her bouncer, is similar to the times i observer her tensing up. I would love to get some feedback from you all. Thanks

Oct 08, 2013
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My son does this also!!!!!!!!!
by: Anonymous

My son does it and he gets hot and sweaty too....we discovered he is trying to hold in his poop! It is called encopresis. He is tactile defensive and every other sensory issue! It;s worth checking out...it could also be restless legs or growing pains

Oct 06, 2013
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My 2 yr old does it too!!
by: Anonymous

Hey all you parents with special children...it has been a struggle for me. To watch your child do it and not understand it has made me feel helpless!! I have it on video and have shown her OT and SLP, no one could tell me what it was. I just know due to her SPD, it's something that makes her happy and I haven't made a big deal about it, hopefully as time goes on, we can do some other activity or just let her do it, I'm not sure....ideas anyone??

Aug 25, 2012
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Hope this helps
by: Anonymous

It is called Gratification Disorder. Please do some research on it before getting the child checked for epilepsy. Also, don't scold them for it, just try to distract them while the action is occurring (although just a little warning, this might cause the child to become annoyed), and encourage them to refrain from doing it in public.

I was one of these children. My parents had me get a brain scan and go to a psychiatrist and still came up with no answer. I was bullied constantly in school and because of this switched to a private school in 7th grade.

May 02, 2012
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It's not seizures
by: Anonymous

It's not seizures if you can distract the child and it stops.

Apr 16, 2012
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Tensing up
by: Anonymous

Look into Sandifer's Syndrome.


Feb 26, 2012
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Mother of 3 year old who tenses legs
by: Anonymous

My daughter is 3 years old, hearing impaired and was born 3 months pre-term. The sensory issues are new to us and we are trying to learn all that we can about them. When she started tensing her legs we were baffled as we had not seen anything like it. We soon learned it is what she does when her routine is off, she has had a stressful day, or is extremely tired.

Feb 08, 2012
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almost eight yr old finally grew out of leg tensing
by: Anonymous

My daughter began tensing her legs at about 3 months old and continued on a regular basis until she was around 5yrs. Doctors, child therapists could not explain this behavior other than to assume she was just a really intense child. I do believe she is a very intense child. It seemed like she felt relief physically and mentally when doing it. She was fully conscious and aware but occasionally would stare. I did feel like she could do it on demand (to deal with what she perceived as stressful times) and at times suspected attention seeking behaviors. I would either try to redirect her attention or ignore it.

The behavior finally began to slow and has been atleast 6 months now since I've seen her do it (she is now 7 1/2 yrs old). We now deal with an intense personality, nighttime bed wetting, social and sensory problems.

AFter years of doctors visits and child psychological therapists telling me she was just an intense child, I took her to be evaluated for a Senory Disorder. She was diagnosed with a proprioceptive disorder (in less than 45 minutes) which has affected all aspects of hers and our lives. It seems that there is a disconnect between the medical/ psychological worlds and this type of disorder. Wondering why we had never been sent for testing before. I am excited to finally have some answers but sad it took us so long to get her diagnosed. This website is the first time I've ever heard of other kids doing it and it's crazy how similar the behaviors described in other entries are! So glad to have found this!

Jan 17, 2012
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Please help!
by: Anonymous

My 4yr old daughter has had a problem since the age of 6 months and we have seen several peadiatritions to no avail.

Constant leg lifting up and down, stiff all over hands rigid and very heavy handed when she trys to do something while she is doing it.We are positive it is self stimulation. She has even taught herself to talk whilst doing this. Will this ever end?? It stops her from enjoying her little life as she should. We have witnessed on 1 occasion where she got the feeling that she wanted and it was very disturbing to watch.

I know it's not nice but it's nice to know we are not the only ones.

Does anyone have any advise as how to try and stop this please.

Dec 22, 2011
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Our daughter does the same
by: Anonymous

Our daughter who is 3.5 does the same thing she did it as an infant and it started again last week. We are taking her back to doctor again in hopes of an answer have you gotten any answers or suggestion as to what causes it or stop it

Thanks

Cmcnorwalk@gmail.com

Nov 19, 2011
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5 year old daughter tensing
by: Anonymous

Hi. My 5 year old daughter also does something similar to what you have described. She tenses up her legs and arms and even holds her breath for a few seconds. She will also put the back of her hands against her cheeks. She has been doing this for many years now and we have taken her to different Doctors which they just say it is a tic. I know they are not tics, because she is in complete control over doing them and I also feel that her tensing gives her some relief. I also don't think it's a seizure because again she is in control.

We also took her to an OT and everything else, academically, emotionally is ok...it's just the tensing no one can figure out. I also noticed lately that she is biting her nails. I was thinking about giving her tissue salts and maybe calcium/mag supplements. Might even try a reflexologist and see if any of that will help. Kids are starting to notice and make comments. So we worry about her feeling getting hurt at school. Otherwise,it doesn't bother us that she does this.

Sep 15, 2011
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Extension of feet
by: Anonymous

Not quite like that but our boy when on his back has feet extension with head rocking when he goes to sleep.
He is ASD (?? Aspergers)
He apparently has proprioceptive dysfunction
I reckon film her doing it to show anyone assessing your babe.
All the best!

Sep 07, 2011
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My daughter does this
by: Anonymous

My two year old also crosses and tenses her legs as well as stomach and feet and hands. Its something she controls because i can distract her to make her stop. To me it seems like she's doing it because it feels good to her either physically or mentally. Its bothersome to me because she's starting to do it more and more and often chooses it over playing with other kids.

I found this medical journal about infant/kids masturbation and while my daughter doesn't really make any noises or anything, she may just be doing some kind of self stimulation.

The report says they find similar cases, all involving girls.

http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/116/6/1427.full

Jul 11, 2011
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seizues?
by: Anonymous

Has anyone thought about seizures? There are so many different kinds. Might want to be something you could discuss with your doctor. Wish you the best and hope everything works out for you.

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